More Twilight Improvements

...Than you can shake something at.

Published on October 19, 2007 By ScottTykoski In GalCiv Journals

Another fun week of Improvement creation! While I'm enjoying myself, making these race specific improvements is really starting to take it's creative toll on me. For GalCiv3 I'm going to fight for Improvements that are real-time 3D models and an 'Improvement Editor' where it's easy to crank them out (plus it'd open the door for more custom-created improvements).

But enough looking forward....let's dig through the past two weeks and see some new Twilight stuff!!!

(Starting at the upper left corner, going clockwise...)

Black Market: A fun way for Evil nations to bolster their planets economy.

Industrial Cluster: Thalans grow their factories. With a small seed, some building supplies, and a pinch of love, this mid-game improvement can adjust itself help the Thalans in multiple ways.

Flesh Incinerator: Yes, I know it looks like a BBQ grill, but what better way to combust the poor, sick, and useless than with a amped up foreman (that, may I add, it cuts fat in half)?

Diplomatic Brain Trust: I really just wanted an excuste to have an improvement that looked similar to a capitol building, but this Terran-specific wonder will boost their diplomatic ability.

Healing Pools: While under the rule of their Drengin overlords, one of the few pleasures Torian slavelings discovered was resting their whip-weary bodies in the non-lethal cooling pools of the Factories they worked in (unless they got caught....then it wasn't relaxing....cause they'd be dead). This practice became part of their culture, so Morale buildings for the Torians tend to reflect their hotspring-loving ways. The 'Healing Pools' is the first in this line of improvements.

So there's your sneak-peak at some of the improvements you'll be building on your planets once Twilight falls (ooh...going to have to send that Tagline over to marketing)!!!!!!! I hope they got you excited - but if not, here's a few more exclamaction points to seal the deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have a fun weekend with 1.8a...cya on Thursday for Twilight: Beta 1!

Comments (Page 1)

Kyronea

on Oct 19, 2007

Fascinating...you're really doing fantastically well at coming up with improvements that are unique to each race. I can very easily look at each of these and say "That's Terran" or "That's Korath Clan" and so on. Splendid job. Splendid.

Bingjack

on Oct 19, 2007

Those look great, and look like great fun to make! Love the industrial cluster. I could make that stuff all day.(/envy).

Alstein

on Oct 19, 2007

Couple of ideas:

1) These buildings should work differently for each civilization. That way, if captured- each race would get something different from it. Unsure if that would be too complicated- and it runs into custom race issues. It would keep in line with the RPG-ish aspect of GalCiv, which since there is no MP should be emphasized.

2) The concepts in DA, specifically Espionage and Extreme Planets, should be made into options

Espionage: give a choice of DL or DA style
Extreme Planets: Maybe a slider for them as well?

crow_t_robot

on Oct 19, 2007

A stupid question , but I'll ask anyway. Can these buldings be improved, and will the improved buildings look different?

Kyronea

on Oct 19, 2007

The Healing Pool will be, presumably, as will the Industrial Cluster...I don't know about the other buildings.

CoReD

on Oct 20, 2007

These are looking sweet!

ScottTykoski

on Oct 20, 2007

These buildings should work differently for each civilization.

I know we have morality and race prereqs for Imps now, but having per-race stats may get a bit messy (we're already going to have ALOT of data to balance with the new TechTrees). What modders could do (and we may have some special techs that do this) is have Improvements that have to be upgraded from pre-existing Imps that they can't use.

For example, lets say your the Terrans, and you've landed on a Yor planet filled with 'Electrolyte Gardens'. Since these are basicially how the robotic civilians 'eat', humans have no use for the improvements. However, you could (and we may) have Technologies that allow Bioforms to convert these energy gardens into special power plants, or factories, or something cool that gives an extra incentive for taking over a specific world.

Again, we'll see what time allows

The concepts in DA, specifically Espionage and Extreme Planets, should be made into options

I'll pass this along, but Espionage is getting an overhaul in 2.0 to streamline it (making it more like Dreadlords). An option to toggle the style is probably out of the question.

An option for Extreme Planets, however, should be fairly straightforward. I'll pass the request along.

Can these buldings be improved, and will the improved buildings look different?

Yeah, almost everything above (and two of the buildings in my previous journal: https://forums.galciv2.com/?forumid=164&aid=163764#1323567) are part of a chain. Just like 'Factory' leads to 'Advanced Factory' leads to 'Industrial Sector' in DA and Dreadlords, most of the Twilight improvements are in a similar chain (ex. Slave Pits -> Slave Mines -> Internment Rig -> Devil's Forge).

Bingjack

on Oct 20, 2007

I'll pass this along, but Espionage is getting an overhaul in 2.0 to streamline it (making it more like Dreadlords).

Yay! Ding Dong the witch is dead!

*dances a jig*

I'll bet you weren't supposed to say that though

Now there will be controversy...

crow_t_robot

on Oct 20, 2007

How will the new espionage system work? And how will the Krynn super ability work?

ScottTykoski

on Oct 20, 2007

I'm sure Brad will drop more details as we determine the best changes to make (read: once Twilight is done and we can re-focus on 2.0)

We'll definatly keep players in the loop so you guys can help come up with the cleanest possible solution.

Bingjack

on Oct 20, 2007

So wait...there's going to be a GC2v2.0? Isn't that technically GalCiv3 ? And isn't TotA really more like GC 2.5, since its going to play fundamentally differently with all the different tech trees?

I dunno...I think you guys are flirting with some sort of temporal anomoly here. You'll destroy us all.

BTW, I just re read your first post, and think it would be incredibly cool to have planetary improvements that are real time models. Fight on! Fiiiiiight!

taltamir

on Oct 20, 2007

no, galciv2v2 would be galciv4!

Rasori

on Oct 20, 2007

No, GalCiv2v2 would be multiplayer. GalCiv2 V2 will be a rocket with copies of GalCiv2 attached, allowing some English people with slow interwebs to get their hands on it. (I don't think we have anyone here who is personally offended by that, but I recognize that they could be and apologize for it...but, for the sake of some humor, I exercise my right to free speech and refuse to remove it for the moment. If someone of significance asks (meaning basically anyone who isn't just saying "hey dude, that's mean" but is rather saying why they are offended or why the message should be removed) I will edit it out). GalCiv2 2.0, on the other hand, will be an insanely kick-ass patch released some time a few months after TA is released.

crow_t_robot

on Oct 20, 2007

No. Galactic Civilizations II 2.0 would be Galactic Civilizations II 2.0

After they get through 1.8b and 1.9b it will just kind of slosh over into 2.0. Kind of like Y2K, without (hopefully) any big crashes.

kryo

on Oct 21, 2007

Technically it should probably be 1.10, but that'd get confusing with 1.1, etc.

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