The Road to 1.2
Published on May 12, 2006 By ScottTykoski In GalCiv Journals
Ah, the UI of a turn based strategy game…so much info to convey, so little time to get it all 100% perfect.

As players have invested hours and hours on our little space game, they’re finding many little UI issues that hamper the gamplay experience and can quickly turn a joyful galaxy-wide extermination into a click-fest nightmare. Well…perhaps not a nightmare, but certainly not as enjoyable.

After the memory issues of 1.1 that went hand-in-hand with playing on a Gigantic galaxy, the whole team set out to play-test the hell out of that size game. Taking notes on what annoyed us, as well as using issues brought up on the forums, we came up with a list of UI tweaks that should make gameplay considerably less ‘clicky’, mostly on those large galaxies.

** Ship Details **
OK, so perhaps the screen didn’t have ALL the details a regular player would need. We’ve since added the Construct and Upgrade buttons to this screen, listed the number of Troops or Colonists on the selected vessel, and have a text field to display the vessels current destination.

** Quick Build Screen **
Just a little thing, but we’ve added a cancel button here. This way, if you click through the available ships and can’t find one you want to change production to, you can simply cancel without having to re-locate the last design you were building. Dunno if this annoyed other players, but it annoyed me.

** Auto-Focus on next availabe Ship with Moves **
OMG!
Perhaps I never payed attention…perhaps it’s worse playing on a large Galaxy…I don’t know, but I wanted to KILL auto-focus half-way through my last game. Cari’s currently turning this into an option…one that I will promptly disable.

** Colony Management List **
Added shield so you know what planets are defended. Tweaked income display to now display Net Income instead of plain ol’ income…should be more useful. Also tweaked the list so it shouldn’t reset to the top when returning from the Planet Screen.

** Planet Screen **
Improvement list wont reset to top when placing improvements. Will be able to destroy an improvement even if it’s being upgrade (1.1 had LOTS of clicking here if you needed to destroy an upgrading improvement).

Lots of other little additions as well. A tool-tip that shows your empire income stats when you mouse-over your money on the main game screen. Number of troops on the Fleet Context Window. Adding of the aforementioned Upgrade and Constructor buttons to the Fleet Manager Window.

Unfortunatly, I don’t know when these improvements will make their way into your hands. Brad returns next Monday, at which time I’m sure we’ll be discussing other things, but we’ll definatly try to pin down a date for 1.2.

Along with mod support, 1.2 will be filled with these long overdue tweaks will ease everyones UI related pain...including my own.

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on May 12, 2006
Two words only:

Thank you
on May 12, 2006
It is gratifying to see the developers continuing to put effort into correcting/enhancing the game. It does seem to me that this is not the norm among some of the larger game companies. Can anyone say Master of Orion 3?

I am completely convinced that this is a complicated piece of software with I'm guessing hundreds of thousands of lines of code. It has to be extremely easy for some errors to simply not get caught during testing. Continue the great work, please!

Is there some central place to post a list of cosmetic/annoyance bugs that will be reviewed by the programming staff?

Is there an explanation for why the AI doesn't seem to, if I've read some of the posts correctly, initialize properly?

Good luck on your quest to slay those sneaky, elusive, pesky bugs!
on May 12, 2006
Thank you.

MY UI SUGGESTION FOR 1.2 :

You see that "goto" button, in the window that appears when you finished building a ship? Well, please make this button so that it centers the strategic view on the planet that just built the ship. For the moment, it goes to the shipyard, which is completely useless. Even more, when you leave the shipyard, you aren't even centered on the building planet ; the view just returns where you were.
on May 12, 2006
* Auto-Focus on next availabe Ship with Moves **
OMG!
Perhaps I never payed attention…perhaps it’s worse playing on a large Galaxy…I don’t know, but I wanted to KILL auto-focus half-way through my last game. Cari’s currently turning this into an option…one that I will promptly disable.



Oh joy, oh joy.

You my friend are now officially my god.


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A new option I would like would be the possibility to make ship moves instantaneous. Especially on larger maps it can take quite some time to move your ships, especially if you have dozens of 50 movement constructors...

Keep up to good work.
on May 12, 2006

Ugrok: I'll bring that up to the team, but note that you're taken to the shipyard for the purpose of selecting a new design if you wish. I do like the idea of centering on the planet though.

Vandenburg: Cari's your new diety, not me My office-wise cursing at the feature was just the straw that broke the camels back. She's the one that knew how to fix it.

I also like your suggestion on instant movement on ships (very useful on those gigantic galaxies)...that was something else I ment to list but forgot to. Thanks for reminding me

on May 12, 2006
As for saving clicks, I like the proposed changes, but I would like to add...

Colony ships...When I pull up the Planet Screen to see the Unowned Planets, if I click on one to move the screen to it, might it be possible not to de-select my colony ship? I hate having to click the find button a few times until I find my colony ship again.

Also, finding starbases are a nightmare for me on gigantic maps. The mini map is useless for this as you can't show just starbases (if there is a way, I can't find it). The Starbase Screen (planet screen) list all starbases on the map, so finding mine becomes almost impossible. Then once I find them I have the same problem as I did with colony ships, the constructor has been de-selected so I have to track them back down while trying to remember which starbase I had that can be upgraded. (not to mention the fact that you cant tell what upgrades you have or haven't got on the SB.)

All in all I enjoy the game, but those two are annoyances to me.

Thanks for the continued support for the game!
on May 12, 2006
I hope that some consideration will be given to add some starbase management tools. Many have been mentioned.

I am of course speaking of some kind of auto upgrade option or an icon that tells you a starbase has improvements available.

Thanks for the efforts so far.
on May 12, 2006
** Colony Management List **
Added shield so you know what planets are defended. Tweaked income display to now display Net Income instead of plain ol’ income…should be more useful. Also tweaked the list so it shouldn’t reset to the top when returning from the Planet Screen.

What means net income? Tax income minus expenses for the planet? I'm not sure if this is really useful, but I wouldn't mind either.

One suggestion regarding the colony management: Please implement some kind of quick build function or list for planets in the colony list, similar to the one for ships (I know there are problems because of the tiles, but I'm sure there are possibilities).
And please include some kind of "decomission all buildings" and/or "delete all ongoing improvements" for planets, too. It's always a clickfest to shape conq... - ahem - liberated planets to your liking. Thank you.
on May 12, 2006
Oh, two more things for the colony list: It would be nice to have an indicator when a planet has empty tiles, it could save a lot of time on larger maps. Maybe an extra column with the number of empty tiles right next to the planet quality would be the best idea.

The other thing would be a highlighting of the planet's production/research focus, and the ability to change that directly on the list (right-click, maybe).
on May 12, 2006
Please the most anoying thing i am finding is when i want to upgrade ships in the shipyard, the little icons that tell you what the ship has are almost useless, their is no text or info and makes it very hard to work out what level of the item you have in your ship, I strart taking ages to remove and check what the item is and what level and space it takes up. Upgrading is becomeing such a pain and time consuming, Can you have a description or some pop up screen that tell you the information you need when the mouse goes over the items in your ship.
That would be the biggest improvement to the game.
on May 12, 2006
** Colony Management List **
It would be nice to be able to focus the different planets on military/social/research here.
on May 12, 2006
It's a start, but I can certainly think of a lot more obvious changes or additions required before the UI is truly friendly and easy to use

https://forums.galciv2.com/?ForumID=274&AID=111357

I've identified a further 20 or so issues since forming that list of 48, but there's not much pointing stopping my game to keep taking notes until some of the issues I had listed are fixed.
on May 12, 2006
Starheaven does have a point. In the shipbuilder it would also be nice to have the ability to Remove stacked items. Like if I change my mind, if I want to remove something and other pieces are attached to it, maybe give a warning/prompt but if answered yes, remove everything.

Also, obsolete should give a prompt in case of accidental clicking or maybe a list of obsolete ships in case you want to pull one out of mothball status.
on May 12, 2006
The thing that annoys me a lot is that there is no "run all automated orders button".
I mean, since most goto orders take not "integer" number of turns turns, but between x and x+1 turns (like 5.4weeks), that means that since goto-orders are done at the end of the turn, you will effectively have unused movment points in last autopilot turn (no way to spend them since goto is done at the end of the turn).

If there was a button to force goto for all units, before end of the turn, i could see if some unit has finished its autopilot and spend remaining movement points.
on May 12, 2006
p22: I'm not a 100% but I think thats what the
"skip moves left over from autopilot"
option does. Uncheck it and you are good to go
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